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PROBLEMS?

  • On November 14, 2018, the City Council voted 6-1, denying St. Paul voters' right to submit Ordinance 18-39 to a ballot vote. Despite finding our Petition “legally sufficient,” they claimed the subject matter was “not appropriate to submit to the electorate.” In order to enforce our legal right to a ballot vote, we need to sue the city.

  • Will you help by Donating to our Legal Fund?

   

Why so much noise about trash & garbage?

Because of mandated...

Organized trash "arrived" October 1, 2018 in St. Paul.  Residents and owners of privately-owned 1-, 2-, 3- and 4-unit buildings will encounter significant changes.  Legislative ordinances that allow the City to implement this new "garbage program" did not receive public hearings and were not adopted by the City Council until August, 2018

Many citizens believe that at least some of the new rules are unreasonable.  Others take issue with the process by which the City entered into a five-year contract with Haulers.  Although today this "garbage program" is limited to small buildings, its roll-out can be seen as a trial balloon for eventual changes to be forced onto all privately-owned residential dwellings.  (Not surprisingly, publicly-owned [e.g., City-owned] residential dwellings are exempt from these mandates -- a nice loophole that saves money, space, and administrative hassles.)

What are some of the problems that have been identified?

  • Lack of comprehensive stakeholder input during contract negotiations:

    • The City/Haulers signed a 5-year contract in November 2017.   (See And-Then-What?)

    • Before and for a few months after signing the contract, the City overlooked, ignored and/or downplayed the harmful effects on multi-family and zero-waste residents.

    • Many (most?) single-family properties will see "minor" price/cart-space changes.

    • Many (most?) multi-family properties will see "BIG" price/cart-space changes.

    • Zero-Wasters will be handed big bills while their efforts are brushed aside.

  • The overall cost of city-wide organized collection should be cheaper, NOT more expensive. 

    • But, the total price to be paid by consumers is UP, not down.  WAY UP.  

    • Approximately 73,000 affected St. Paul households will be forced to pay the TOTAL EXCESS COST of about $11.6 million per year for a total of $58 million during the five year contract.  (See Real-Life Examples)

      • Data Source:  St. Paul Department of Public Works

      • Data Analysis:  John Genereux, whose firm was known as Genereux Social Science Research.

        • "We were often put in the role of describing the emperor's clothes."

    • That averages out to about $160 per year per household, which might not sound too bad -- (Bulkies here! "Free" bulkies!) -- until skewed assessments are analyzed:

      • Single-family = Slight up/down price changes.  

      • Multi-family & zero-wasters = ENORMOUS price increases (Double, Triple, and even Five-Times higher).

  • New requirements appear to violate Minnesota Statutes (click here for news).

  • Although almost everybody appreciates fewer trash trucks per alley, many of us who currently "share" and/or "opt out" as allowed by long-standing city ordinances, find ourselves targeted by the inflexible new rules.

  • One trash cart for each and every Residential Dwelling Unit ("RDU"), regardless of how many occupants in each RDU:  No sharing; No Dumpsters; No Exceptions.

  • Despite months of preparation time, when the City of St. Paul first rolled-out and US-Mailed its program information in May 2018, City staff struggled to accurately answer questions from owners of multi-family buildings.  Eventually they figured it out, but during May and early June it was painfully clear that few (if any) City policy-makers actually understood: 

    • the terms of the City/Haulers contract, and 

    • the contract's skewed and harmful impact on multi-family buildings and Zero-Wasters that is caused by:

      • No Sharing of trash containers by residents in a single building, by next-door neighbors, or by folks down the block; and

      • No Opt-out by those who encourage, work toward &/or achieve Zero Waste.

  • Mandatory charges + fee (annual costs) for each RDU:

    • See Real-Life Examples

    • in single-family homes (except for zero-wasters), costs will go up a bit, or down a bit

    • in 2-, 3- and 4-unit buildings:

      • in some cases costs will go up/down a bit

      • in MANY cases, costs will soar (some "only" DOUBLE or TRIPLE;  others FIVE TIMES HIGHER)

      • EXAMPLE:  3-Unit Building

        • Currently:  Residents share one 95-Gallon cart  @  $252.72 per year

          • Cost per unit  =  $7.02 per month

        • New Mandate:  One cart per unit (no sharing, no opt-out) 

          • Costs FIVE TIMES HIGHER

          • 3 Carts  @  $1,252.32 per year  (weekly pick-up)

          • Cost per unit  =  $34.79 per month

      • EXAMPLE:  Two 4-Unit Apartment Buildings;  Side-by-side;  Same owner

        • Currently:  Residents share one 2-Yard dumpster  @  $956.76 per year

          • Cost per unit  =  $9.97 per month

        • New Mandate:  One cart per unit (no dumpster, no sharing, no opt-out) 

          • Costs more than TRIPLE

          • 8 Carts  @  $3,271.68 per year  (weekly pick-up)

          • Cost per unit  =  $34.08 per month

      • EXAMPLE:  Zero-Waste resident;  Single- or multi-family home

        • Currently:  Small 3-gallon bag of trash per month;  Share friendly neighbor's cart  @  ~$60.00 per year

          • Cost per unit  =  $5.00 per month (estimated)

        • New Mandate:  One cart per unit (no sharing, no opt-out)  

          • Costs FIVE TIMES HIGHER

          • 1 Cart  @  $297.96 per year  (pick-up every 2 weeks)

          • Cost per unit  =  $24.83 per month

 

Comments by St. Paul residents

The overall cost of city-wide organized collection should be cheaper, NOT more expensive. 

  • But, the total price to be paid by consumers is UP, not down.  WAY UP.  

  • Approximately 73,000 affected St. Paul households will be forced to pay the TOTAL EXCESS COST of about $11.6 million per year for a total of $58 million during the five year contract.

St. Paul's "no sharing" policy forces thousands of targeted households to pay monthly charges to haulers for thousands of empty, unwanted and unnecessary trash carts. 

  • And then Ramsey County (@ 28%) and the State of MN (@ 9.75%) will assess fees -- fees that are not based on volume or weight of what is actually hauled; but instead, fees based on St. Paul's mandated PRICES. 

  • Each year via "no sharing," (as part of the $11.6 million excess to be paid by customers), the city, the haulers, the county and the state will be paid for empty trash carts. 

  • Affected families will have no incentive to reduce their volume of trash, and no opportunity to lower their costs. 

  • Meanwhile, "no sharing" leaves the city, haulers, county and state with every incentive to encourage prices to go up. 

Cost Analysis by John Genereux - August 2018

 

   

Away From Home?

Don't forget your Permission Slip.

Thank your hauler(s) -- This one is not mandated by the City.

CAUTION

Read the fine print before you pay your garbage invoice.

Click image to see an "offer" the

City of St. Paul says you can't refuse.

And, note the "start-date error."  ORD 18-39, allowing the City to fully implement its garbage program, was not effective until October 10th.   MEANWHILE, haulers are charging from October 1st, thereby demanding payment for an extra nine (9) days of overcharges for empty, unnecessary and unwanted trash carts. 

July 28, 2018

Dear City Council Members, 

I strongly OPPOSE 
the four new organized trash collection ordinances on which you are scheduled to vote in the coming days:  18-37, 18-38, 18-39 and 18-40.

I wrote in May 2018 to say that, as I see it, part of Saint Paul's trash collection roll-out feels like City- Sponsored Extortion.

Please bite the bullet, let go of saving face, and VOTE NO on all four of these proposed ordinances.

E. Lein

Questions?      Click  here  for our FAQ page.

  RECENT NEWS (June 20, 2018):   MN High Court Rules for Citizens Fighting Bloomington on Garbage 

Also see:  And-Then-What?   

This petition drive is a first step toward
achieving these GOALS:

  • Ability to Opt Out
  • Ability to Share Containers
  • Reduce Excessive Price Increases
  • Reduce Excessive Space Requirements
  • Make the Program FAIR TO ALL
Real-Life Examples
Financial & Space Implications
Then What?

Petitions now.  What's next?