What's our petition status?
(scheduled for discussion and adoption on Wednesday, 11/14/2018, 3:30
PM) says "the Petition for a referendum of Ord 18-39 is legally
sufficient but that the subject
matter is not appropriate to submit to the electorate."
City Attorney says
Press - 11/10/2018
your opinion of St. Paul's new garbage program and the process
by which it has been "rolled out." Explain how
the program, as currently designed, affects you, your family,
and/or your neighbors.
Honest input ahead of the next trash-related City Council Resolution
be adopted Wed,
11/14/2018, 3:30 PM]
can highlight the depth of citizens' disappointment, frustration
resolution determines a course into the future. Many
citizens believe that parts of St. Paul's trash program
range from unconscionable to unfair and unethical to
possibly illegal. By amending Resolution 18-1922
before adoption, councilmembers have an opportunity to
demonstrate that, unlike the City Attorney's opinion, they
value PEOPLE more than they value an admittedly-flawed
choose PEOPLE is likely to cost all St. Paul taxpayers
Millions of dollars if garbage haulers convince a court
that their contract prevails.
choose PROCESS will cost a few thousand targeted garbage
customers Millions of dollars, unless those customers
convince a court that their cases prevail.
is no easy path out of this city-created mess. Now
is the time to create a better future by acting in, and
honoring, the best interests of all the people.
Klobuchar seems to be correct regarding Minnesota's
belief in "process."
11/14/2018, 2018, 3:30 PM,
the Council will decide via their vote on RES
whether or not our second petition is
"sufficient" & "appropriate" (on ORD
(ORD 18-39, & with it the entire trash program,
might be suspended);
Appropriate? (the trash program,
will continue as-is)
start running this like We
"arrived" in October 2018, in St. Paul. Residents and owners of
privately-owned 1-, 2-, 3- and 4-unit buildings are encountering
significant changes. (See Trash Cart
Mandate) Legislative ordinances that allow the
City to implement this new "garbage program" did not receive
public hearings and were not adopted by the City Council until August
2018. (See Send Comments)
the fine print
you pay your garbage invoice.
images to see an "offer" ...
of St. Paul's "collections office"
says you can't refuse.
|And, note the
"start-date error." ORD 18-39, allowing the City
to fully implement its garbage program, was not effective until
October 10th. MEANWHILE, haulers charge
from October 1st, thereby demanding payment for an extra
nine (9) days of overcharges for empty, unnecessary and unwanted
forget your Permission Slip.
the Garbage Police
[aka: Your Hauler(s)]
This one is not mandated by the
Press - NEWS
Article - 11/04/2018
Press - OPINION -
Senator Amy Klobuchar, on
28, 2018, was
not talking about the organized collection
of our household trash. Her underlying message can, however,
be applied to local policy-makers. Senator Klobuchar's
closing words to the Senate Judiciary Committee ring all too true
in Washington, DC, and in St. Paul, MN:
come from a state that believes in process..."
now, the way this process is run, we're not running it like We
the people. It's being run like We the ruling
For decades (probably since
Residents have been allowed - even
encouraged - to share trash containers. Although sharing
benefits our community and almost always saves space and dollars,
the City's new "garbage program" disallows sharing and
Can residents in my tri-plex continue to share one
large trash cart? NO!
Your tri-plex will
receive and must pay for THREE trash carts at double or triple
last year's cost. NO sharing. NO exceptions.
I was told that I can keep one cart and return two unwanted carts. Will my
garbage fees go down? NO!
All units in your
tri-plex will be billed, and must pay, for THREE
carts. Returned carts will not lower your cost. NO
opt-out. NO exceptions.
of us have been encouraged to "Reduce, Re-use,
Recycle." In doing so, many of us aim to become
"zero wasters." Some of us generate just one small
bag of trash per month which we deposit in a helpful neighbor's
trash cart, or we hand-carry to a local transfer
Because the City and a consortium of Trash Haulers signed a five-year
contract that says so.
believe that at least some of the new rules are unreasonable.
Others take issue with the process by which the City entered into a
five-year contract with Haulers. (See Problems)
Although today this
is limited to small buildings, its roll-out can be seen as a trial
balloon for eventual changes to be forced onto all privately-owned
Not surprisingly, publicly-owned [e.g.,
City-owned] residential dwellings are exempt from these mandates --
a nice loophole that saves
money, space, and administrative hassles.
Paul's "no sharing" policy forces thousands of targeted
households to pay monthly charges to haulers for thousands of empty,
unwanted and unnecessary trash carts. And then, Ramsey County
(@ 28%) and the State of MN (@ 9.75%) will assess fees -- fees that
are not based on volume or weight of what is actually hauled; but
instead, fees based on St. Paul's mandated PRICES.
overall cost of city-wide organized collection should be cheaper,
NOT more expensive. But,
of this contract (to be paid by consumers) is
up about $11.6 million per year, not
by local analyst John Genereux)
the city failed to fully engage with its citizens and failed to truly listen to
the concerns that have been voiced for more than a year.
unneeded and overpriced carts cluttering the already limited space in
alleys and yards.
(See Community News)
care about neighborhood aesthetics. We
believe that “Reduce, Re-use, Recycle” is important.
have jobs. We are retired. We rent. We own.
We ride the bus. We drive. We budget.
are working hard to rein in and re-envision the process by which the
City of St. Paul entered into its ill-advised 5-year garbage
contract with trash haulers.
St. Paul voters - not the City Council - should decide whether to approve or
reject the garbage ordinances as they exist today. (See And-Then-What?)
schools, charged with educating our children, must ask for
additional funding via referendums.
Meanwhile trash haulers and the city's bureaucrats have been working overtime
to circumvent referendums on new garbage ordinances. Apparently it is
faster and more cost-effective to shake down residents via mandated
price-fixing plus unneeded, unwanted and overpriced
"service." It could be called city-sponsored extortion.
beg -- Haulers plus the city, county and state...smile.
A referendum is the process by which a
legislative ordinance adopted by the City Council is then "referred"
or submitted to a vote to be taken by the city's residents, allowing the people
to either approve or reject that ordinance.
signed by voters may be delivered to the City after an ordinance
is adopted, but will not be accepted more than 45 days after
adoption & publication (i.e., this process works for new ordinances, not old
right to petition and require a vote (per City
long before St. Paul's garbage
contract was signed in November 2017.
In August and September 2018, the Council adopted four new "garbage program" ordinances.
the City's garbage contract was signed way back in November 2017,
today's newly-adopted ordinances are what allows the City to
implement the terms of that contract (i.e.,
no ordinance = unused contract). Assuming that referendum voters
will reject today's ordinances, we urge the City and Haulers to step back
and give this hot-button issue the thoughtful consideration it
deserves but has not received.
are petitioning the
St. Paul City Council for referendums on two of the four "garbage
18-39 & 18-40. (See Documents to
two ordinances are involved, we circulated TWO petitions, we
had two sets of deadlines, and
6,200+ St. Paul residents signed BOTH at the same time. (See Status)
We submitted more than the required minimum number of valid
10/16/2018, we (temporarily?) suspended our collection of signatures.
BUT, depending on unpredictable City garbage program activity,
something could change. ...stay tuned...
and Locations )
2018 -- Submitted first petition
-- which, in part, precludes (prohibits) "sharing" via
revisions to existing code language.
hand-delivered 5,919 signatures on 689 pages of paper to the
county elections office.
October 8th, the elections manager certified
5,071 signatures as valid - more than the 4,932 minimum required.
16, 2018 -- Submitted second petition
18-39 -- which created an all-new code chapter that allows the
city to implement its new garbage program.
hand-delivered 6,469 signatures on 755 pages of paper to the
county elections office.
October 31st, the elections manager certified 5,541 signatures as
valid - more than the 4,932
(scheduled for discussion and adoption on Wednesday,
11/14/2018, 3:30 PM) says "the Petition for a
referendum of Ord 18-39 is legally
sufficient but that the subject
matter is not appropriate to submit to the
continues to be an enormous task. Thank you for joining